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  Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims

  by defender of truth in

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  2. child-abuse

  positions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636

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  Mad Irishman

  It doesn't quite make sense, because if you have been convicted of molesting/raping more than one person that automatically shows you cannot be repented.

  So this guy was never disfellowshipped at all? Something seems missing in this story.
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  CREATIVE DAYS - How Long?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has the new june 2015 watchtower finally done away with 7000 year creative days?

  the box the bible and proven scientific facts.

  genesis chapter 1 uses the term day to set out the stages in the preparation of the earth for life in all its diverse forms.

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  Mad Irishman

  The new understanding is that they were not days at all but "epics". And no one knows how long an epic is. And that each epic had a different length of time. So the 2nd epic could have been 100,000 years and the third epic could have been a million years. No one knows.

  They've been way out of the mainstream on this for 50 years. They've simply gotten to the correct point that if the creation story in Genesis is true, no one knows how long the creative days really were and it would be wrong to speculate.

  That's a lot saner than the rest of the idiots who still think God created the universe in 6 days.
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  Some Early Church Fathers even ignored the name YHWH

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was reading the bart's answer to terry on th name "jehovah", and i remembered that when i did my personal study about the church fathers of the second century i found that justin martyr ignored the divine name:.

  from the first apology of justin martyr:.

  ... and as many virtues as are peculiar to a god who is called by no proper name.

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  Mad Irishman

  I'm not sure why this is an issue since all of Christendom believe YHWH (Jehovah in English) was God's name. This isn't a witness issue.

  The founding fathers of America believed Jehovah was God's name. Thomas Jefferson did. George Washington did. Abraham Lincoln did. Jehovah is used in thousands of great pieces of literature throughout history to represent God's name. Go to Saint Mark's Cathedral in Venice and YHWH is right there on the tile when you walk in the building on the right hand side. Hemingway always referred to God as Jehovah.

  It wasn't until the witnesses started really pushing the issue to differentiate themselves from all the other Christian religions that they all started pulling back on the use of using YHWH and Jehovah.

  Jehovah and YHWH were around long before the Jehovah's Witnesses. They just used God's name like everyone else was doing in the 19th Century.

  Or you could just ask a Jew to take some time out of his very Jewy day and he'll let you know what God's name is (so long as it's not in public, because they are not supposed to say it out loud).

  But then again I'm not sure what the arrangement of the letters of God's name is supposed to prove. It's different in almost every language. If the text uses the original tetragrammaton then that's what should be translated. What vowels you use in between those letters is simply a metric of whatever language is being used. I think sometimes we overthink these things.
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  How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please pardon if this a repeated topic.

  i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

  she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

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  Mad Irishman

  You know I have to say that saying child molestation is "rampant" in JW-land is going a bit overboard and makes one look hateful and bias instead of well-meaning and thoughtful.

  I have several friends who were brought up Catholic and what happened in the Catholic Church I would call rampant. My friend was raped by a Catholic priest for 10 years. This same priest is known to have raped around 300 to 400 other boys in a three state area over thirty-five years. That is rampant. The rate of abuse in society in general is what? Around 30%. What is it in JW-land?
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  Will the Watchtower Corporation ever get mastery over Satan's worldly Internet?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with satan's media and satan's internet the odds seem to be in his favor,while jehovah's earthly organization with all these multi-million dollar lawsuits waiting to be settled in or out of court it.. it seems that satan's multi-organization can claim the high moral ground while jehovah's earthly organization is left holding the bag full(in the thousands 23,000?

  ) of anonymous child molesters just waiting for another victim and more lawsuits in the making.

  looks like a victory for satan demoting jehovah's organization to the shit can file of ancient history.. for a hundred years it looked like jehovah's organization was going to keep going strong then jehovah caused so many wrong dates for when the end of the world was coming and now with the invention of the internet where these big problems with jehovah can be aired in public seems to cast a spell of doom over jehovah causing him to hate to see tight pants on men and women and child like wizard toys and deaf people mastering the art of baiting ..

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  It’s grandiose thinking to believe that Martin Luther couldn’t bring down the Catholic Church, but the Internet is going to bring down any religion, whether it be Mormons, JW’s, Scientology, the Catholic Church, etc.

  I hear this all the time, but wishing something was true isn’t going to make it happen, and having confidence in something is going to happen when it goes against all the empirical evidence of past history borders on hubris.

  Let history play out before you start writing the history books.
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  Tony's life story

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i finally read tony's life story and this one point really hit me where he was talking about his son's.

  on page 7 he say's "because they made the truth their own, they make susan and me look good.

  so those who children leave the "truth" look bad?.

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  Mad Irishman

  You know Tony can't say too many things without insulting someone somehow.
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  Stone Demon in Watchtower Mag (SUBLIMINAL IMAGE)

  by artcritic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have a look at this new subliminal image from the mag of .

  spam link removed.

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  Mad Irishman

  I have some toast that says this thread is whack!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses now trying to infiltrate a Hospital

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/spiritual-care-volunteers-at-jackson-hospital-support-sick-welcome-babies/article_83c3872e-66df-5cbd-8db8-d4c6b31d3f0a.html.

  5 hours ago by frances moody jackson hole news & guide.

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  Mad Irishman

  JW's do this in prisons as well and they've been doing it in hospitals for a long time. I'd rather be told I could live on a paradise earth than burn in hell. Although, depending on which day it is or who you're sharing a hospital room with that might not be the case.

  Funny thing is: I've heard many a story of non-Witnesses who don't want blood transfusions say they are witnesses to their doctors so they will use other methods. And if a witness goes and talks to that person, because the docs say they are a witness too, lo-and-behold they are not. Very strange.
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  Have you noticed that the Mormon and JW websites try to appeal as looking "normal" and "mainstream"

  by yogosans14 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://beta.mormon.org.

  for instance look at the mormon website versus jw.org.

  they both look colorful and try to paint themselves as "normal everyday people" and they don't fully explain all there beliefs for obvious reasons.

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  Mad Irishman

  I was hoping they went with more of a Sex Pistols driven vibe, but I think I'll be waiting a long time for that one. Even Public Image Ltd would suffice. Anger is an energy you know.
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  JW.org Email Service - Now I've Seen EVERYTHING!!!

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe i'm late but i just discovered that elders now have an email service run on the jw.org domain name.. those emails might contain a treasure trove of very sensitive material regarding rape, molestation, pedophilia cases etc.. the cult keeps getting creepier and creepier.

  why would they do that in this day and age, lots of damning stuff in one place?.

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  Mad Irishman

  It's simply coming up into the technology of the 21st Century. This simply replaces letters mailed out. It's saving a lot of trees, which I'm all for!!! And there is no "secret" treasure trove of info there. It's elder correspondence which they've always done through the U.S. postal service before this.